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Duration: 08:32 minutes Upload Time: 2007-12-20 13:58:02 User: pyrrho314 :::: Favorites :::: Top Videos of Day |
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Description: response to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3_oYtBHWTk if you don't pay your debts in propertocracy do you not go to jail? This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License |
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| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-12-29 06:22:15 no, a feudal government does this, and a private property command hierarchy does this, but a commons is made of people unionizing for purposes of securing rights which, given naturally, must be secured consciously by mankind for mankind. __________________________________________________ | |
| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-12-29 06:18:40 people often choose to do business with a powerful theif, preferring to be in their favor. __________________________________________________ | |
| dateofbirthdateof ::: Favorites 2007-12-28 23:57:04 Somalia is not run in the same way you are proposing. Its people do not voluntarily pick and choose every specific detail about the government with each person signing a contract. Somalia has a transitional federal parliament ruled by warlords. Whether the warlords have made it peaceful and more prosperous compared with other African countries could just as easily occur within a state, I have all the other states in the world to cite as examples. __________________________________________________ | |
| AESTHETE24 ::: Favorites 2007-12-28 16:07:38 It's far more than fantasy. Have you heard of a place called Somalia? No government there, and they have many institutions quite similar to what I propose, like DROs. It is one of the most successful countries in it's region, and incidentally, ALL of its problems are caused by states. __________________________________________________ | |
| dateofbirthdateof ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 19:04:04 Anarchy is promoting a system within no system. The overall system is nothing, the inner system is something, and furthermore it is a system which must be volitional. There really is no system to anarchy; it's basically an elaborate fantasy of what could possibly occur in a state of nature. __________________________________________________ | |
| dateofbirthdateof ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 18:51:49 Even if you could prove that some communities could possibly develop the way you imagine they would; this does not prove all or even most of them would develop this way of their own volition, your theory is unconvincing and evidence from history shows people do not primarily develop the way you claim they do in a state of pure nature. __________________________________________________ | |
| AESTHETE24 ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 15:52:30 But that's exactly what a GOVERNMENT promotes, especially considering a government can ONLY exist by FORCING itself upon people within it's "jurisdiction". It IS a coercive monopoly, and any denial of such shows me that you're blind. Saying that a system w/out this particular coercive monopoly is a system that advocates force...do you see the contradiction? __________________________________________________ | |
| AESTHETE24 ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 15:50:39 Democracy is a suggestion box for slaves. __________________________________________________ | |
| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 14:19:32 government of the people... and as you can see many people want the protections of this common infrastructure even when they admit there is corruptions and problems with it, but still, they desire a common system of protections... that is... they are not doing it at the point of a gun. __________________________________________________ | |
| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 14:17:56 aesthete, my main complaint: history... history shows violent action has been quite profitabble enough to motivate its use in the past. For one, it takes some WISDOM to see why over all it's negative to the culture and individuals involved... it is easier to be a brute for many many people. a system promotes some types, diminishes others... a system of private property anarchy promotes the types that do believe in force. __________________________________________________ | |
| dateofbirthdateof ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 13:27:55 I would prefer more of a direct democracy, at least in congress. We have the power and the technolgy where we could all vote on issues. __________________________________________________ | |
| AESTHETE24 ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 11:16:07 But public police ARE paid thugs who do whatever the GOVERNMENT asks them to do, and the government is a violently maintained monopoly. So, you'd rather have vast amounts of power given to a group that violently maintains their monopoly, yeah? You'd rather have coercive, greedy men with all your money. __________________________________________________ | |
| dateofbirthdateof ::: Favorites 2007-12-27 03:26:29 There isn't much to keep countries from going to nuclear war other than the fact that there is a monopoly on the use of nuclear arms by the worlds most powerful countries. But it is still terrifying. What would be multitudes more of terrifying would be if any random person could get a hold of nuclear weapons. Police are not perfect but I would rather have police who have to answer to a higher authority than paid thugs who will do whatever we ask them to. __________________________________________________ | |
| AESTHETE24 ::: Favorites 2007-12-26 23:10:10 That's precisely how ANY political theory works. What keep a country from nuclear war? What keeps police from beating people all the time, instead of only when they're extra horny for violence like they do now? What keeps taxes from raising to more than half of our income? KARMA! __________________________________________________ | |
| dateofbirthdateof ::: Favorites 2007-12-26 22:57:17 Your answers are based on whimsical idealism. "Greed would corrupt", you could say that about anything! Basically your argument is proposing Karma in the place of a traditional legal system, which is completely preposterous. Not only that, but karma is UNRELIABLE, which isn't optimal in a free market. __________________________________________________ | |
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